There's a version of burnout that hides inside competence. As a licensed clinical social worker and former tech startup insider, I developed the SYSTEMS Framework™ — a 7-part burnout prevention model built from lived experience and clinical practice. This episode breaks down every component and how to actually implement it in your daily life.

Dr. Mickey Fitch Collins — human skills facilitator at Learnit and doctoral researcher who spent years interviewing middle managers about their lived experiences — to talk about what her research actually found, why the burnout hiding in that layer is so hard to see, and what one practical tool can help any high achiever start to draw a real line between work and the rest of their life.

I sat down with Sarah Lafontaine — licensed mental health counselor and founder of Mindful HQ — to talk about what regulated leadership actually looks like, why high-achieving tech workers are especially vulnerable to chronic burnout, and why rest alone isn't fixing it.